Index for posts concerning Death Penalty

Dear Girl sitting in front of me eating dates and knitting pt 2 by Bear
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Sir Mario gets the death penalty by Darth B'strad
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Abortion and the Death Penalty by Bieren Skidels
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Dear Girl sitting in front of me eating dates and knitting pt 2

Posted on April 22nd, 2009 by Bear.
Categories: Death Penalty, Ethics, Abortion, Constitutional Law, Terrorism, Philosophy, Republicans, Parental Advisory.

Wale is not a delicious meat. You shouldn’t eat it, because most people would consider that cannibalism due to the fact that you’re fucking huge. It’d be like me saying “Yeah, they don’t have laws in Japan about peopling, but I understand because people are delicious.”
Wales are awesome. You’re not.
Fuck you,
Sam

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Sir Mario gets the death penalty

Posted on June 23rd, 2008 by Darth B'strad.
Categories: Political, Death Penalty, Ethics, Law, Judaism, Religon, Christianity.

Colorado does have the death penalty but it is rarely used in this state. Sentenced on Monday, June 16, Sir Mario Owens is now going to join one other inmate on our death row in this state. This from the rocky mountain News:

“We did it, Vivian.”

Those were the first words out of Christine Wolfe’s mouth today after a jury sentenced her daughter’s killer to die by lethal injection.

The all-white jury deliberated six hours in Arapahoe District Court before handing down a unanimous verdict that 23-year-old Sir Mario Owens should die for the 2005 ambush murders of Vivian Wolfe and her fiance, Javad Marshall-Fields, both 22.

Now why did they have to point out that it was an all white jury? See, the news media around our county is first concerned with race. They first ask the question “what’s the race of the guy” instead of asking “did he do it!” But just like a judge in California, they don’t want to see any more black men sitting on death row. That judge let that guy go who proceeded to murder again but that’s ok, we’re making up for our raciest past!

I don’t care! I want to know if he did it or not.

Monica Owens, mother of Sir Mario Owens, said the verdict will be appealed.

But of course it will. It always is!

Vivian Wolfe and Rhonda Marshall-Fields, mother of Javad Marshall-Fields, left a meeting with jurors arm-in-arm following the reading of the verdicts.

“We told them we knew it was a long, difficult trial,” said Rhonda Marshall-Fields about the meeting with the jurors. “But it will never be over for us.”

Christine Wolfe, mother of Vivian Wolfe, said her reaction to the verdict was to whisper the words “We did it, Vivian” to her daughter.

“Javad and Vivian were our angels,” Rhonda Marshall-Fields said.

Both mothers praised the work of prosecutors and said the verdicts restored their faith in the criminal-justice system.

Wouldn’t you want some closure for this family? It’s not that this will bring them back but now they can take comfort in that this man will not harm again.

Wolfe said she would stop at her daughter’s grave in Mount Olivet Cemetery on her route home this evening to repeat her message to her daughter. Vivian Wolfe is buried beside Javad Marshall-Fields. The graves are within walking distance of Christine Wolfe’s home.

Owens was found guilty in May on two counts of first-degree murder in connection with the deaths of Marshall-Fields and Wolfe, who had graduated from Colorado State University only weeks before they were killed.

Prosecutors said the deaths were particularly heinous because they were carried out only days before Marshall-Fields was slated to testify against Owens in connection with the death of his friend, Gregory Vann, at an Aurora park.

Owens is serving a life-without-parole sentence in connection with the death of Vann. Members of Vann’s family attended the reading of the verdicts.

“This is not something we celebrate or take great joy in,” said Arapahoe County Assistant District Attorney John Hower, who delivered the final arguments in the penalty phase of the trial on Friday. “But it is a just verdict.”

I don’t take joy ether but this is something that we have to do.

Chambers said questionnaires completed in April by prospective jurors for the trial indicated 90 to 95 percent of them were in favor of the death penalty and said the verdict represented “a community decision.”

Heavy silence hung in the courtroom as Judge Gerald Rafferty read the jury’s verdict forms.

Owens, dressed in red jail fatigues, showed no emotion when the verdict was read. Throughout the two-month trial Owens wore stylish street clothes brought to him by his parents.

What is wrong with this picture? Here you have a man that has murdered two people and you have the Rocky treating him like a victim here. However when you have a greedy business man that steals money you hear the media cry bloody murder and get that guy in life imprisonment. My point is not to defend the greedy man but to point out bad inconstancy in our county. When we go after greedy business executives more harshly than someone who commits murders, what does that say about our society? It says that we as a society are more concerned with the equality of people financially than we are concerned with human life! That’s a harsh road to go down because now it is worse for you to be a corporate executive in our society than it is to be a murderer. Why is that? Shouldn’t we be more concerned with human life in this country? In the attempt to make everyone equal the left has thrown out many of the other values that have made this country great. They have compassion for the African-American community so they want to see less of them on death row. I agree with that but I judge on the basis of if that person has committed the crime or not and not on the basis of their skin color. It just so happens that right now a lot of blacks are committing this crime and thus more of them are being put on death row. The reason for that is our welfare state because government has taken the place of dad in the home of many black families. Why should the dad stick around when the government can just foot the bill for you. This is a trend that has completely destroyed the black community and left it in the state that it’s now in. People may say “ahh, you don’t need a dad in the home, a mother can do just as well!” For you I offer my own life as an example that while there are many single mothers that do a wonderful job there are many children that must have a father in their life in order to make it in life. I would be dead right now if it was not for my fathers influence on me. However, society constantly belittles fathers and keeps on telling us that they are useless. There is something very wrong with this! We need men in this society to stand up for what is right and to punish what is wrong. By killing murderers we are sending a clear message that we take this seriously and if you commit such an act you forfeit your own life.

Many of my fellow Christians will say that we are to be caring and compassionate, even to murders. They are right! But that does not mean that we should throw out the standard because we have compassion. We have been ordered by God to kill murders. Every one of the first five books has a commandment to kill murderers. Numbers 35 explains this clearly:

16 “But if someone strikes and kills another person with a piece of iron, it is murder, and the murderer must be executed. 17 Or if someone with a stone in his hand strikes and kills another person, it is murder, and the murderer must be put to death. 18 Or if someone strikes and kills another person with a wooden object, it is murder, and the murderer must be put to death. 19 The victim’s nearest relative is responsible for putting the murderer to death. When they meet, the avenger must put the murderer to death. 20 So if someone hates another person and pushes him or throws a dangerous object at him and he dies, it is murder. 21 Or if someone hates another person and hits him with a fist and he dies, it is murder. In such cases, the avenger must put the murderer to death when they meet.

Jewish laws allowed for accidental killers to go to a certain town and live out the rest of their lives there and no one seeking vengeance can go there and kill someone of that town. Thus you separated out people who have killed out from the regular population and if someone forced to one of thous towns are found outside of the town and are killed it’s not considered murder.

30 “All murderers must be put to death, but only if evidence is presented by more than one witness. No one may be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. 31 Also, you must never accept a ransom payment for the life of someone judged guilty of murder and subject to execution; murderers must always be put to death. 32 And never accept a ransom payment from someone who has fled to a city of refuge, allowing a slayer to return to his property before the death of the high priest. 33 This will ensure that the land where you live will not be polluted, for murder pollutes the land. And no sacrifice except the execution of the murderer can purify the land from murder. 34 You must not defile the land where you live, for I live there myself. I am the Lord, who lives among the people of Israel.”

In Jewish law, eye for eye allowed for plea barrings so that someone could do some monetary compensation for breaking laws but this passage did not allow for plea barrings for murder, they must be put to death and there must be at least two witnesses to the murder for them to be put to death. But, this passage also stresses the point that keeping murders alive defiles the land that you live in and it does because most murders try to break free and also kill other inmates in prison and sometimes they do break free and murder others. Now does this mean that murders are absolutely condemned to hell? Not necessarily, I can not judge if people are going to hell or not. That is a decision that is made by God and no one else can take that away from him. It’s not a worthless pursuit to try to save the soul of murders and we should try but they are to be put to death according to the bible. This is a point that has been stressed to me over the years by my father. He has said to me on several occasions that he loves me but if I do murder someone he will push for me to be put to death. It’s not that he would love me any less than any other parent would but he does expect me to hold to this standard as we should expect everyone else in our society to hold to this standard. This penalty stresses this point and prevents murders from continuing murdering. Another Pragerism goes like this: when you are kind to the cruel then you are cruel to the kind. I hate that we need to do this but we do need to do this! My God have mercy on his soul.

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Abortion and the Death Penalty

Posted on November 20th, 2006 by Bieren Skidels.
Categories: Political, Death Penalty, Ethics, Abortion, Crime.

I believe abortion is wrong (murder), however, I also believe it has been the most effective crime deterrent in our time, much more effective than the death penalty.
Ever since Roe vs. Wade, for every one person executed under the death penalty, approximately 45,000 abortions take place (in America), a large percentage to poor single mothers most likely to bear criminals, stopping the criminals before they start. (contact me for reference to studies on this subject and other relations between crime and demographics - for a start read Freakanomics by Stephen J. Levitt)

http://www.pregnantpause.org/racism/mistaken.htm talks about how abortion can target poor blacks, depending on how it’s applied

I will know make some comments and conjectures:

1. I heard someone say “evangelicas (insert Republicans) are people who care about you before you are born, but not after…” - the question is: The right often justifies the death penalty by appealing to its reduction of crime (as a deterrent), applied in the same way this argument should *loosely* apply to abortion as well?? The death penalty has always required the approval of the judicial system, so has abortion. So you’re on the jury, a statistical distribution has been suggested for the application of the death penalty in order to stop crime before it starts - am I talking about the statistical chance of a murderer killing again, or am I talking about the statistical chance of an unwated (poor,inner-city,etc…) baby killing in the future?

Does the death penalty work as a deterrent? Well, abortion did… and so does the death penalty when applied to lesser crimes than murder:

Hazing the Dragon in Singapore

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